A FACEBOOK CONVERSATION

I received a message asking me to become friends with someone on Facebook. I said yes, of course. The person concerned immediately contacted me on my message board. This was the conversation.

It's a shame, but my correspondent will never read my last piece of good advice because within the 30 seconds it took me to write and send it she had unfriended me.

The truth might set some people free but there are an awful lot of people out there (especially within the evangelical wing of the Church) who are so scared stiff of even thinking about what may be true and what may be false that they bind themselves in chains of ignorance, preferring bondage to freedom.

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A FACEBOOK CONVERSATION — 11 Comments

  1. Well, that kind of bondage is a lot easier than freedom in Christ. So it’s no surprise to me when someone chooses a lifetime diet of milk, and never moves on to the meat.

  2. With all due respect, Jesus says in Matt 5:17, “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.” In this one simple sentence, He confirms the the validity of both the OT and NT. Christ acknowleges the relevancy of the LAW and claims that He Himself accomplished the purpose of the Law, which was to show us that we need a Saviour. As our Saviour, Jesus, by his death & resurrection, created a way for us to restore our broken relationship with God so that we could have eternal life. Jesus then commissioned his apostles, including Paul, to spread this Gospel to all. The NT is made up of letters written by Jesus’ apostles, who were divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit — the “Helper” whom Jesus promised to send to them as He ascended into heaven. These letters explain the Scriptures, call unbelievers to believe, and encourage believers to stand strong and walk in faith and holiness. I believe that the entire Bible is divinely inspired by God. I encourage everyone reading this to research this thoroughly to determine in your own heart and mind if this is true. As a starting point, I invite you to test this statement: Jesus’ teachings never contradict the Bible’s teachings. God bless.

  3. Just because a person believes something does not make it true, Sophie. I believe all sorts of stuff but I only defend those things that I believe which I can prove to be true scientifically or with logic.

    If you truly believe the Bible is inerrant then solve the St. Paul conundrum in the above conversation. Or, alternatively, live your life in the style of the writer of Ecclesiastes.

    Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law. But that does not mean that he didn’t intend to change the law in line with their true purpose as revealed in himself. It does not mean that he did not intend to abolish some of the laws, those that contradicted his message of love. For example the laws that called for the death penalty and those that treated women like dogs are obviously not in line with the Gospel and I would bet a lot of money that you do not follow very many of the Levitical rules and laws. You don’t because you are sensible and understand that Jesus changed the way we worshipped God and related to each other.

    I think you will find that most of my readers, and myself, have studied the Bible a lot more than you have. In doing so we have found that it is not consistent and often contradicts itself.

    Jesus contradicted the law when he said that divorce was wrong. He contradicted the law when he healed on the Sabbath. He contradicted the law by his contact with lepers and other ill people. He contradicted the law by talking to unaccompanied women and gentiles. Do you have any more challenges? I would be more entertained if you could make them a little more difficult.

  4. Indeed, as Jesus fulfills the law, all that is now needed is Jesus. The law is not abolished; it is fulfilled, and therefore, not needed.

    However, Jesus does recognize that not one jot, not one tittle will pass away, and that is because he knows we humans will insist on keeping the law so we an tell who is in and who is out.

    We blaspheme in this insistence. The purpose of the law was love. We made it about jurisprudence, who passes and who fails. That is not love. Jesus fulfilled the law; he is love, pure and simple.

    And now, shall we point at Jesus’ clear annoyance and even anger at the scribes and pharisees? Well, of course he gets cross with them, because they cannot let go of the letter, each jot and tittle, each tau and iota, in favor of letting everyone in unconditionally. After all, someone has to be at the bottom of the heap.

    So Jesus went to the bottom of the heap. He died as a condemned criminal. And God told us all off by raising Jesus from the dead, making a nonsense of our grasping at the letter of the law. And here endeth the lesson. (and this, my day off. Must go rest now. A nice cuppa will do me.)

  5. Keep blogging (or, oh all right, Face-booking) the Good Fight, MP.

    When it comes to the subject of Teh Gay, some people thinks that even DISCUSSING it has some aspect of contagion, no? “I might catch it, then my entire world might CHANGE!”. No the former, but YES to the latter!

    wv, “achies”: what you gave your correspondent in the noggin…

  6. Some people are earnest followers.They assume they are following Jesus but they are instead following the Bible. More ready to defend the Bible than Jesus. They have an automaton jargon/cliched aspect to their speech. Actually they are really following other people who they look up to and admire and they assume that these other people (who are following the Bible) are following Jesus. Big mistake. Not only for themselves but for other people who they might hurt in the process. I know all this, or at least feel qualified to speak about it because I was exactly like this for an embarrassingly long number of years.

    I would say “trust your heart” and read the scriptures with an open heart but this solution is not available to them because they are not allowed to trust their heart. Its a fundamental principle with these people that the “heart is wicked above all things” and cannot be trusted. Hence they are stuck.

  7. OMG, BTW, your Facebook correspondent took the Lord’s name in vain. Selective law recognition syndrome (SLRS), I suppose.

    And as one who grew up in Evangelical Land, I feel it’s important to note that the Mad One and Boaz have it exactly right. Ironically, Jesus of Scripture should be a stumbling block to the bibliolater, should the reader be paying any attention at all.