MADPRIEST’S THOUGHT FOR THE DAY

If I have a go at a Christian who is persecuting gay people, I am a hero. If I have a go at a Muslim who is persecuting Christians, I am unfriended. If I have a go at a reactionary Christian for failing in their Christian duty, I am applauded. If I have a go at a liberal Christian for the same, I am unfriended.

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MADPRIEST’S THOUGHT FOR THE DAY — 29 Comments

  1. Honestly, M.P. you don’t expect people to have values above ruthless self-promotion & a crushing certainty about the validity of their views?
    But seriously, many people only want to hold on to their worldview to avoid the despair of admitting that they have no idea why the world is broken. They never want to be challenged. Ironically, the only way we learn is by admitting that we can be wrong & accepting help from others, our own pride holds us back. Unfortunately most people just defriend or troll people for trying to debate with them.

  2. “… many people only want to hold on to their worldview to avoid the despair of admitting that they have no idea why the world is broken.”

    This is a very thoughtful and insightful way of looking at it, DWW. Thank you.

  3. It is astounding that for many liberals, their politically correct compassion does not extend to our fundamentalist/evangelical sisters and brothers. As a result, any actions that decry our deride the conservative Christians are cheered…but woe to the man who says nary a word against an oppressed minority.

    There is a significant anti-Muslim prejudice over here that would brand all Muslims as would be terrorists, so liberals who would rather die then be considered racist blind themselves to the realities of Islamicist violence and terror.

  4. Most mornings I check in with the Alternet site and here’s something I just read that’s interesting:

    “The history of slavery is perplexing, shocking, and confounding. Contemporary xenophobes who spew Islamophobia by suggesting the religion’s foreignness to America would be shocked to learn that a substantial portion of slaves were Muslims, weaving their culture into the American tapestry from the beginning. This fact has been obscured, partly because it was inconvenient for slave owners to admit that some of their chattel were highly literate “God-fearing” people — a threat to the paltry justification of bringing enlightenment to savages. And yet history reveals people like Omar Ibn Said, an Islamic scholar who wrote his memoirs in Arabic while enslaved on a North Carolina plantation and whose education far surpassed that of most planters (my father was the historian who discovered that the “myth” of Omar was a reality).”

    It’s by Lynn Parramore from an article entitled What You Didn’t Know About the South: Surprises from a White Southerner

    I know it’s only peripherally on topic but I thought it was worth posting all the same.

  5. ” many people only want to hold on to their worldview to avoid the despair of admitting that they have no idea why the world is broken.” From your keyboard to God’s ears!

    Critical thinking is harder than criticism. That is why there are those, “liberals” who cannot take it when someone actually uses their brain and looks at the world. As sad as that is, one can only try.

    Some friends are just there for the fun part of the ride.

    ;;sigh;;

    FWIW
    jimB

  6. If we’re only saying things people want to hear, then we’re likely saying things not worth being heard.

    Should I trademark that thought?

  7. It’s Renz’s comment that disturbs me the most. I do think there is an element of “serves him right” when an evangelical pastor is facing the death penalty in Iran. To side with an oppressor just because he is oppressing somebody who oppresses us is not only illiberal it is small minded and plain nasty.

  8. I like your word “ordinariness.” I object to that part of my life. Also the dailiness of it. — AT

  9. “To side with an oppressor just because he is oppressing somebody who oppresses us is not only illiberal it is small minded and plain nasty.”

    Yes, it’s that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” idea, which is just lazy thinking at best.

    Happy New Year, MP 🙂

  10. I had a well-constructed response…marred only by the *tiny* flaw that in it, I was being an @sshole.

    So, I’m sparing you all. Happy New Year!

  11. By your use of the word ‘unfriended’ I take it that you are referring to Facebook. The power of a click on social networking sites has become far too powerful but it is illusory. Life still largely exists outside the web where one has to defend and be challenged over one’s views. No mute or unlike button exists in real life. Happy New Year.

  12. There’s an excessive PC-ness that is particularly problematic with liberals. For example, the liberal left identifies with the poor oppressed Palestinians in Israel while conveniently ignoring the fact that they are flinging bombs at the Israelis. (Which is not to excuse the Israeli responses, but to point out that palestinian politics is far from a black-and-white case.)

    If the church really wants inclusion of all viewpoints, then liberals ahve to figure out how to live with the conservatives. And respect that some people make unfathomable faith decisions without being stupid.

    But liberals just like conservatives like “us” and dislike “them” — they just don’t admit it as easily.

    Indeed, I read a quote recently from an African American who commented that in some respects he’d rather work with unrepetent racists than white liberals who deny their reacism. And as Avenue Q warbled, everyone’s a little bit racist!

  13. What I can’t understand is why people can’t just enjoy a good slanging match for what it is. No wonder there are so many divorces nowadays. If Mrs MP was prone to unfriending everybody who she got cross with I would have been kicked out within about a week of getting married. And I wouldn’t have lasted five minutes as a lorry driver where being insulted by someone meant that they liked you.

  14. MP, at least they care enough to give you evidence of what a bastard they think you are, and take seriously you mean it. I get this “We’ll just keep away til you get over it.”