TEH EVANGELICAL AGENDA EXPOSED

From THE CHRISTIAN POST:

In an interview published Sunday, Trevor Phillips, the Chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission in Britain, angered Christians by saying many groups that argue against homosexuality were only doing so to gain political advantage. According to the Sunday Telegraph Phillips said, “There are some Christian organisations who basically want to have a fight and therefore they're constantly defining the ground in such a way that anyone who doesn't agree wholly agree with them about everything is essentially a messenger from Satan.”

He continued: “I think for a lot of Christian activists, they want to have a fight and they choose sexual orientation as the ground to fight it on. I think that whole argument isn't about the rights of Christians. It's about politics. It's about a group of people who really want to have weight and influence and they've chosen that particular ground. Personally I don't know why they don't choose ground that really is defending Christian values. I wish they'd choose gambling or human trafficking or something,” he said.

Phillips stoked controversy further referring to growing African and Caribbean congregations as having “old time” views that put them at odds with mainstream Britain.

He said, “If you come from an Afro-Caribbean Christian background the attitudes to homosexuality are unambiguous, they are undiluted, they are nasty and in some cases homicidal.”

The U.K. Evangelical Alliance led the way in criticizing Phillip’s comments, saying in a statement released on its website that “Phillips' analysis is in some areas defective.”

“Sadly Mr Phillips fails to appreciate that this expression of Christian belief is at the heart of the mainstream, historic and orthodox Christian church that is growing rapidly in every continent,” the statement expressed.

Phillips was unsympathetic to the situation Catholic adoption agencies found themselves in. He told The Sunday Telegraph: “You're offering a public service and you're a charity and there are rules about how charities behave. You have to play by the rules. We can't have a set of rules that apply to one group of people simply because they happen to think it's right.”

COMMENT: It's not the fact that evangelicals think they are right and everybody else is wrong that makes them uniquely dangerous - we all think that. It's not the fact that they think everyone else is going to hell as Anglo-Catholics just as easily condemn evangelicals to eternal torment although, to be honest, this is mainly because they think evangelicals have absolutely no style, which is definitely an unforgivable sin. The reason why evangelicals are so dangerous is that they are not content to gain the freedom to worship God in the way they think is right. Their ultimate aim is to take away the freedom of all who disagree with them and legally force them to do it their way as well. To achieve this end they have to be political, not just within the host churches they attach themselves to but also within secular governance.

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TEH EVANGELICAL AGENDA EXPOSED — 12 Comments

  1. Trevor has a point.

    And over here, if it’s not “teh gay” it’s abortion. Those are the two “sexy” wedge issues that American evangelicals pounce on and work it, to sway either undecided voters or values voters. I am convinced that many of them privately don’t give a flying rat’s ass if one is gay or not, or whether one has an abortion or not. They just use the hell out of this wedge issue and bully people into voting a certain way.

    See, things like human trafficking or child sex workers in 3rd world countries (or 1st world ones, hell) or working class issues, etc, aren’t “sexy” enough. That’s one reason – of many – why they don’t bother with that.

    Ugh. Just friggin’ ugh.

  2. This is an extremely important point:

    “The reason why evangelicals are so dangerous is that they are not content to gain the freedom to worship God in the way they think is right. Their ultimate aim is to take away the freedom of all who disagree with them and legally force them to do it their way as well.”

  3. Personally I don’t know why they don’t choose ground that really is defending Christian values. I wish they’d choose gambling or human trafficking or something,” he said.

    FTMFW!!!

    He said, “If you come from an Afro-Caribbean Christian background the attitudes to homosexuality are unambiguous, they are undiluted, they are nasty and in some cases homicidal.”

    Um, where/from whom did they LEARN those attitudes? (Hint: it wasn’t the indigenous religions of Africa)

    I wish those on our side would keep their “eyes on the prize”, and not go veering off into race-baiting… {Le Sigh}

  4. It’s not race baiting to state what is patently and verifiably true! I’m a white Southerner and have grown up tip-toeing around wrong-doing if it came from someone of a different race, because, however easy it is to scream racist at any other white person, it becomes, through stereotyping, a thousand times easier to scream at a Southerner. Why? Because, it has so often been true of the Southern cultural identity! Now, wouldn’t it be great if, instead of saying “racist,” the Afro-Caribbean cultures would take a hint that it’s said because it has also so often been true of their cultural identity.

    If you hold up for your society, as an ideal and emblem, something that is held in contempt or ridicule by others, it is unreasonable to expect others to refrain from criticism of that culture that idealizes an object of disdain.

  5. I don’t know what it is like elsewhere but in England evangelicals regard themselves as united with evangelicals in all denominations and have little or no loyalty to the denominations they worship in. It is often alleged that the only reason evangelicals are members of the Church of England is because it gives them access to our premises and we pay our clergy relatively well. It’s certainly nothing to do with our doctrine and liturgy both of which they pay very little regard to.

  6. Point taken, re the critic being black (and ergo not race-baiting).

    My point still stands, however, that the “Afro-Caribbean Christian background” is a result of white Christian evangelists poisoning their Afro-Carribbean flocks w/ (non-Biblical!!!!!) homophobia.

  7. JCF
    You are right about the colonial legacy of evangelism, whether among Africans, Afro-Caribbeans, Aboriginals or other groups.

    Yet I would caution against tarring any ethnic group. The Diocese of Montreal without it’s West Indian members would be nothing, yet sexuality is not a big issue among the parishes where they are most prevalent (at least 8 of the 10 largest parishes)

  8. I think it was the peddling of evangelicalism, with its emphasis on Biblical legalism, in the 19th Century that is to blame, not so much the recent peddling of homophobia specifically. They told the converts that they were evil and that the only way they could be saved was to adopt Victorian, middle-class (repressed) mores. Its going to take centuries to deprogram them from such intense brainwashing. Notice how the areas where the Anglo-Catholics did the missionary work, such as Southern Africa, do not cite the Bible to condemn homosexuality but cultural traditions. For some reason it appears it is easier to persuade people to turn their backs on their culture than on their religion.

  9. Of course, JCF! But the problem is, as long as no one calls them on it, they will never have to face the wrongness of what they were taught and chose to embrace!