WILLIAMS TALKS UP COVENANTAHEAD OF SCHEDULED DEBATE

From REUTERS:

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, urged the worldwide Anglican community on Tuesday to adopt an agreement designed to maintain unity over divisive issues such as gay bishops and same-sex unions.

"It is an illusion to think that without some changes the Communion will carry on as usual," the archbishop told the General Synod.

"The unpalatable fact is that certain decisions in any province affect all," he said.

"If we ignore this, we ignore what is already a real danger, the piece-by-piece dissolution of the Communion and the emergence of new structures in which relation to the Church of England and the See of Canterbury are likely not to figure significantly." (Ah, there's the rub)

Williams said the pact would not create a centralized system, and that it was "dispiriting to see the Covenant still being represented as a tool of exclusion and tyranny."

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WILLIAMS TALKS UP COVENANTAHEAD OF SCHEDULED DEBATE — 10 Comments

  1. an agreement designed to maintain unity over divisive issues such as gay bishops and same-sex unions.

    Translation:

    “an ultimatum designed to exert CONTROL over against (those churches permitting) gay bishops and same-sex unions”

    relation to the Church of England and the See of Canterbury are likely not to figure significantly

    Unless a seed fall into the ground and die…

  2. Williams said the pact would not create a centralized system, and that it was “dispiriting to see the Covenant still being represented as a tool of exclusion and tyranny.”

    Apparently the ABC hasn’t read the proposed Covenant.

  3. So, the exclusivist wish to exclude the “inclusivist,” have been known to not share Communion with those they wish to exclude, have excluded “untouchables” at international meetings, and the covenant is designed to bench those with whom they are not in agreement but we’re supposed to believe that the covenant is not “a tool of exclusion and tyranny.”

    Have I missed something? Have we done something to cause others to doubt our intelligence?

  4. KJ, remember the real archbishop of Canterbury has been kidnapped by aliens. We are dealing with an alien intelligence here. They are not like us. Heck, they’re not even on the same planet.

  5. Am I to assume that the power to reason is not a value on this alien world? How the heck did they travel across the galaxy? Sounds like Delta Quadrant to me.

    When I left Evangelical Land, first camping with the Methodists then becoming an Episcopalian, rediscovering the ability to reason as part of the faith experience was like being born again – a dive into a refreshing, cool pool. Oo hoo! Party! God gave me a mind to use! Now it’s like the religious cops have shown up and are shutting down the party.

    Oo oo! I just had a thought right inside my head. If the Gospel is present, shouldn’t there be a spirit of joy and fun? In their absence, hasn’t one likely wandered into religiosity? I think that our man Tutu would agree with me.

  6. Heaven knows I have long since ceased to give a rat’s rear end about a relationship with the See of Canterbury. We can reserve that for the messianic banquet when we shall all be surprised to dine at the same table. For now it is only a hindrance to the Gospel. I say keep the Queen, ditch the hedgehog, and move forward.

  7. “It is an illusion to think that without some changes the Communion will carry on as usual,” the archbishop told the General Synod.

    This is where this problem begins and ends, but Williams can’t see it. Let me tell him.

    The Communion always continues on because the communion is…the communion.

    That’s it.

    If he thinks it’s an “illusion” that the communion “will continue” then…WATCH THIS SPACE!

    There will always be a communion, just as there will always be a church. People just have to decide whether they want to be a part of it, or not. Clearly many people don’t, and some people have “left”. Those who remain do not need (and certainly don’t want) any “rules” or “committees” or “covenants” made for them. Why would they need it?

    This “covenant” stuff is just an attempt to get people back into the communion who don’t want to be in the communion. If they want to be in a “covenant” and not a communion then let them form a covenant. And the archbishop will have to decide whether he wants to join them.

  8. Is it just me or are the Grand Tufti’s word just empty rhetoric in light of the GAFCON emission stating that they will take their marbles and go home, no Primates Meeting, no Covenant, no thanks?

    Seems that Rowan’s “communion” is long past gone to me. But there’s still TEC and AC of C to punish, I suppose.

    Perhaps the long plan is to expel us and then court the return of the GAFCONites? Of course I think that by that time they will be a “global” entity of their own and their terms for re-union will be a bitter pill to Rowan and/or his successor.

    But then I’m a bit gloomy today.