I SUPPOSE IF YOU BELIEVE IN PAPAL INFALLIBILITYYOU CAN BELIEVE IN ANYTHING

From THE CATHOLIC HERALD:

COMMENT: I personally know Andrew Burnham. But I haven't spoken to him for over fifteen years and maybe he has changed. He has certainly seemed to have changed his mind about gay people as he prided himself on being the straight friend of the local gay priests when he was working in Nottingham. He rang them all up on the night the women's ordination measure was passed by synod and told each of them that he would look after them. Now he wants to join a denomination that officially refuses to ordain gay men to the priesthood even if they are celibate. However, I also remember, and this where he may have undergone a miraculous transformation in the past decade or so, that the main thing that Andrew was "energetically committed" to was his own advancement.

It strikes me that the English Catholic church is extremely naive about these dissident Anglicans. They also vastly overestimate the Anglican congregations thatmay cross over, whose attitude towards mission is not what you would call enthusiastic at the best of times. In fact, these insular throw backs to the 1920s tend to have more gatekeepers in their congregations than the Plymouth Brethren. Mission involves welcoming the other and these congregations will only put up with the exactly similar becoming part of their unchanging world. These dissidents want to leave Anglicanism because Anglicanism is changing. They hate change. They hate the threat of change. They hate even the idea of talking about change. They are as far removed from the Pauline paradigm of mission, of being all things to all people, as you can possibly get.

Perhaps if the Roman Catholics had spent more time looking at the Anglican Church as opposed to looking down on it they would have a better understanding of the true nature of its Anglo-Catholic wing, especially in England. One thing is for certain, if they do welcome all Andrew Burnham's flock into their fold they are, in the words of The Flinstone's theme tune, going to have one hell of a "gay old time."

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I SUPPOSE IF YOU BELIEVE IN PAPAL INFALLIBILITYYOU CAN BELIEVE IN ANYTHING — 6 Comments

  1. Very thought-provoking, MadPriest:

    “Mission involves welcoming the other and these congregations will only put up with the exactly similar becoming part of their unchanging world. These dissidents want to leave Anglicanism because Anglicanism is changing. They hate change. They hate the threat of change. They hate even the idea of talking about change.”

    And, undoubtedly true.

    Ha. Word verification is fisms.

    Future schisms?

  2. Well, if the congregations of the ordinariate are “energetically committed to mission and evangelism and serving the neighbourhood in which they are set,” then God bless them. If on the other hand they are just going to continue to whine and whimper about sex (to do what and with which and to whom) and women in authority and keeping the closet door locked, well, then, Rome deserves them.

  3. I’m no friend of Rome but I think saying that it deserves our schismatics is going too far. Personally, if I was the pope I would go for disembowelment in preference to Andrew Burnham.

  4. According to the “blood crazed ferret”, there is a huge problem with “Disaffected Anglicans” joining the Church of Rome, then absolutely REFUSING to sing off-key…

  5. “next step in church unity” my @ss.

    The disaffected defectors will sunder ALL loyalty (and charity) toward the ABC, and replace it w/ TOTAL SUBORDINATION to the Bishop of Rome. In what Insane Troll Logic Bizarro-World is this “church unity”? [Oh, that’s right. After Dominus Iesus (2000), Rome doesn’t believe we’re a church anyway, so the ONLY “church unity” that exists is their own!]

  6. Well, as long as we remember that the Ordinariate is actually a leper colony to ensure that the real Roman Catholics aren’t “infected” by the disaffected Anglicans, everything drops into place. The RCs don’t want the malcontents, as they are well aware that people like that are never ever contented and will be difficult to handle. Segregating them in the Ordinariate will keep them away from everyone else, especially the celibate RC priests who are annoyed that these married Anglican priests are getting a free ride into Holy Mother the Church.

    Ordinariate = Molokai. Who will be Damian?