MALE BISHOP, WHO HAD SEX WITH MAN,OUTSIDE OF WEDLOCK, MAY GO TO ROME

Fifteen bishops have written to Church of England clergy voicing their concerns over the crisis in the Church of England.

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

'God forbid that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you, but I will tell you the good and proper way.' (1 Samuel 12:23)

These are grave times in the Church of England especially for those of us unable in good conscience to accept that any particular church has the authority to admit women to the episcopate. While we certainly accept the good faith of those who wish to make this change believing it to be God's will, we cannot rejoice with them, not least because of the disastrous cost to Catholic unity.

Our concerns are not only about sacramental assurance though that is of profound importance. If the legislation now proposed passes, it will not provide room for our tradition to grow and flourish. We will be dependent on a Code of Practice yet to be written, and sadly our experience of the last almost twenty years must make us wonder whether even such an inadequate provision will be honoured in the long term.

Neither the Report of the Revision Committee nor the legislation itself shows a proper understanding of our reservations, however carefully these have been presented through the consultation process and in the College and House of bishops. It remains a deep disappointment to us that the Church at large did not engage with the excellent Rochester Report and paid scant attention to the Consecrated Women report sponsored by Forward in Faith.

We must now accept that a majority of the members of the Church of England believe it is right to proceed with the ordination of women as bishops, and that a significant percentage of those in authority will not encourage or embrace with enthusiasm the traditional integrity or vocations within it. Nor is it their intention or desire to create a structure which genuinely allows the possibility of a flourishing mission beyond this generation.

However, the closeness of the vote on the Archbishops' amendment for co ordinate jurisdiction, concerns though there are about its adequacy, suggest at least a measure of disquiet in the majority about proceeding without a provision acceptable to traditionalists. The Catholic group fought valiantly on the floor of synod and we are grateful for that, and while many in the Church and press are speaking as if the legislation is now passed, final synodical approval is still some way off.

Whatever happens in the Synod, there are some Anglo Catholics, including in our own number, who are already looking at, indeed are resolved to join the Ordinariate as the place where they can find a home in which to live and proclaim their Christian faith, in communion with the Holy Father, yet retaining something of the blessings they have known and experienced in the Anglican tradition. Of course the Ordinariate is a new thing, and not all of us are trailblazers or can imagine what it might be like. Some will undoubtedly want to wait and see how that initiative develops before making a decision.

Yet others will make their individual submission and find their future as Roman Catholics.

Were the present proposals not to be substantially amended or defeated, many more of us will need to consider seriously these options.

A number will remain, perhaps even reluctantly because of personal circumstances, family loyalties, even financial necessity, but with a deep sense of unease about the long term future, an unease that is surely well founded. There are faithful Catholic clergy and lay people, though deeply opposed to the likely Synodical decision who cannot currently imagine themselves being anywhere else but within the Church of England. They wonder how they can stay, yet cannot imagine leaving their much loved church and parish. They do not want to be forced out of the Church they love and will persevere where they are, whatever the theological or ecclesiological ambiguities, and seek God's blessing on all they do.

Those who are not actively seeking a home elsewhere must work to defeat the currently proposed legislation. It is essential that traditionalists engage in the debate and discussion in their diocese and are active in the election process for the next quinquennium of the General Synod when the two thirds majority in each House will be required if the legislation is to pass. Whatever our individual futures, and however disheartened we might feel, the Church of England needs strong catholic hearts and voices.

The text quoted at the beginning of this letter was the one used by John Keble in his famous Assize sermon, often regarded as the starting point of the Oxford Movement. It seems remarkably apposite, and gives a clue to an appropriate attitude of heart for this process: prayerful and gracious, but clear.

We are all bishops united in our belief that the Church of England is mistaken in its actions. However, we must be honest and say we are not united as to how we should respond to these developments.

Nevertheless we are clear that each of the possibilities we have outlined has its own integrity and is to be honoured. We are resolved to respect the decisions made by laity, bishops, priests and deacons of our integrity, and call on you to do the same. It would be a sad and destructive thing indeed if we allowed our happiness and wondering to drift into unguarded or uncharitable criticism of those who in good conscience take a different path from our own. We must assume the best motives in one another, and where there are partings let them be with tears and the best wishes of Godspeed.

You will we hope know of the meetings in both provinces to take place in late September when there will be opportunities for discussion and an exchange of views about the future. Be assured of our prayers as you reflect about how best to respond to the challenges which face us, and we ask your prayers for us too as we seek to be faithful to the Lord, and to the Faith once delivered.

Please share the contents of this letter with your people, and indeed with any who might be interested to know of it.

The Rt Revd John Hind, Bishop of Chichester
The Rt Revd Geoffrey Rowell, Bishop of Europe
The Rt Revd Nicholas Reade, Bishop of Blackburn
The Rt Revd Martyn Jarrett, Bishop of Beverley
The Rt Revd John Broadhurst, Bishop of Fulham
The Rt Revd Peter Wheatley, Bishop of Edmonton
The Rt Revd John Goddard, Bishop of Burnley
The Rt Revd Andrew Burnham, Bishop of Ebbsfleet
The Rt Revd Keith Newton, Bishop of Richborough
The Rt Revd Tony Robinson, Bishop of Pontefract
The Rt Revd John Ford, Bishop of Plymouth
The Rt Revd Mark Sowerby, Bishop of Horsham
The Rt Revd Martin Warner, Bishop of Whitby
The Rt Revd Robert Ladds
The Rt Revd Lindsay Urwin OGS

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MALE BISHOP, WHO HAD SEX WITH MAN,OUTSIDE OF WEDLOCK, MAY GO TO ROME — 42 Comments

  1. O my friend! What a delicious head-line you’ve concocted. Worthy of being called snarky. We be pleased.

    Bruce/Canon Itchy

  2. Now, now, my ex gay friend. that would be telling.

    Of course, I do tell in the post itself, but telling you how I’m telling would also be telling.

  3. What’s it you, anyway, Peter? Do you want me to send you his address? Though, to be honest, I think he’s more into prostrating than your prostate. Of course, I could be wrong…

  4. I’m really getting tired of this. If anyone wants to join the Ordinariate, then p*** off and join it, and let the rest of us get on with our ministry within a church that is willing to open its arms to all sorts of possibilities acknowledged in that letter as a genuine belief that we are acting in accordance with God’s will.

  5. For an ex-troll, Peter, you don’t half behave like a troll. But then, you must find that in other areas of your life, as well.

  6. You’re not an ex-troll at all, Peter. You are the same old concern troll you always were with all the moves. I expect it’s one of those nature things. You can deny it till the cows come home but once a troll always a troll.

  7. For someone who is the world’s most learned and experienced clergyman little Peter O is remarkably lacking in self awareness. He does, however, compensate for this to some extent by being extremely amusing.

  8. He is a satirist’s dream, Father. The fact that he is his very own Spitting Image puppet, and so cuts out the need for any expense in that department, makes him even cuddlier for us.

    I think he should have his own reality TV show. I reckon it would be as popular as The Osbornes.

  9. Evasions, snarkiness, pathetic attempts at clever innuendo, a few dollops of anglo-catholic “socialism”, relentless and pointless posturing,…
    Must be mainline protestantism.

  10. You must be bored MP.

    Little PP is always on the look out to find the dirt. I remember Father Kelvin made a post once that caught PP’s eye and wham! there he was wanting to know who.

  11. I don’t think you can mainline protestantism. If you could, I doubt that it would give you much of a buzz. Unless it was “high” church, of course.

  12. Perhaps he is worried that he was the unnamed man involved with the unnamed bishop. I mean, Peter had a sordid past before he was “healed.”

  13. “I don’t think you can mainline protestantism.”

    I read this sentence a half dozen times, trying to figure out what word you had left out . . . and then I figured out you hadn’t.

    ***

    “MALE BISHOP, WHO HAD SEX WITH MAN,
    OUTSIDE OF WEDLOCK, MAY GO TO ROME”

    I wanted to say the same thing over at TA (reading the signatories’ list), but I didn’t dare.

    [Geez, Peter O, where ya been? The “guilty” (episcopal) party was outed (outed in the first person—um, or make that, the second!) on these pages years ago. Closet cases, BEWARE: ya never know when someone will schtupp-and-tell! ;-X]

  14. I was just wondering if any RC bishops, priests, or deacons were preparing to leave the RC Church for the Anglicans because they WILL ordain women bishops. Just curious…

  15. If they do go to the Ordinariate, will Urwin be in charge of keeping the gays out?

  16. I’m perfectly aware of the original allegation thank you Dennis. I’m just finding out whether Jonathan is the man he wants us all to think he is.

  17. I don’t give a shit what you think of me, Peter, in the same way I don’t care what the Devil thinks of me. I do care what my friends think of me but, as they will testify, I would rather lose friendships than behave in any disingenuous way just to garner them. But then my life is not based on one, big, huge lie like yours, so I am not used to constant deceit.

  18. My dear Father (and by that I’m not addressing you little Pete – even though we both know you’re arrogant enough to have for at least a moment thought otherwise) Bishop Quinine tells me he’s tells me he’s green with envy at the prospect of what your Ould friend has in mind for you when he learns more about your manhood.

  19. I tried snorting protestantism once, but all that happened was that the evangelicals made me sneeze.

    That is God’s way of saying you’ve got too much religion, I guess.

    You can certainly smoke protestantism. Bloody Mary did quite a bit of that. Then Queen Liz smoked quite a bit of Catholicism, just to keep things even.

  20. Smoking heretics is best and I’m happy to join any inquisition which wishes to fight to make the smoking of heretics in a public place, legal again.

  21. I’m happy to join any inquisition which wishes to fight to make the smoking of heretics in a public place, legal again

    I think smoking heretics in a pub or restaurant puts people off their food myself. It’s a distraction in the office, too. And you get ash all over the furniture at home. Better outside on the footpath, even if it is a bit rainy and cold sometimes.