POPE ROWAN THE FIRST KICKS TECOUT OF ANGLICAN COMMUNION

You may have been wondering why the titular head of the Anglican Communion has, so far, said nothing about the vile imprisonment of Steven Monjeza and Tiwonge Chimbalanga in Malawi. Well, the answer to that question is that he has obviously been too busy writing the following letter which, when put alongside his silence on the Malawi matter, will give the green light to the institutional persecution of gay people throughout the world for many years to come.

You don't need the alleged intellectual ability of Rowan Williams to work this out. It's very simple. Because the Episcopal Church in the US have shown that they regard gay people as having the same moral value as people who are not gay, Rowan Williams is sending them into exile. He is not going to exclude any province, or pseudo-province, that persecutes gay people. Therefore, Rowan Williams' Pentecost message for 2010 is that gay people are bad and that the persecution of gay people is good and, by linking his pronouncement to the current festival, that he believes this is the attitude of the Holy Spirit.

Greed for power and influence has trumped the love of God in Jesus Christ. We are now the enemy.

COMMENT: "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin."

I am so glad I don't have a church to worship in at this particular moment in time. How on earth could an English Anglican priest preside at a Whitsunday eucharist when our spokesman has given the Holy Spirit such a slapping?

The full text of Pope Rowan's (load of) Bull 
has been posted on FOOTNOTES.


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POPE ROWAN THE FIRST KICKS TECOUT OF ANGLICAN COMMUNION — 47 Comments

  1. In short, do things my way or you’ll be excluded, whilst we work and pray for closer unity.

    A brilliant example of “humpty-speak” … ‘When I use a word’, Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less’. (Through the Looking Glass)

  2. Finally and at last.

    Can we go now, TEC?

    Oh, and grab up as many liberal priests and parishes in the UK as we can while we’re at it. It’s time someone went missioning to rescue them!

  3. Thanks Mark!

    But why on earth do the liberal priest, parishes and bishops in the UK not start to speak out loudly? What on earth is keeping them silent?
    Maybe they don’t deserve rescuing after all.

  4. The awful part is, the old fool knows better. Now what are the odds he’s going to sanction the border crosses?

    Let him pay for his own tea-parties from now on. TEC has work to do, in Haiti and a lot of other places. Next time he shows up at the Presiding Bishop’s door with a tin cup in his hand send him to Pittsburgh.

  5. The Archbishop is wrong on two essential points:

    1 There is no “outward unity at a formal level” in the Anglican Communion.

    2. It is not the case that “the Communion as a whole has come to regard . . . acceptable limits of diversity in its practice”: The “Communion as a whole” has no voice.

    Has someone been adding rohypnol to Rowan’s tea?

  6. I really, truly believe that he has always been a homophobe at heart, and put on the right face to blend in in academia.

    First, we hear about his apology to gays and lesbians, which amounted to “I’m sorry you got so upset because you didn’t get what I was saying.”

    Now, we get a double whammy of “Well, I won’t say ‘don’t come around anymore’ but . . . don’t come around anymore,” at the same time we’re told he’s “responded to Malawi” . . .

    . . the kicker being HE DIDN’T! He “welcomed” the South Africa statement. I welcome Jehovah’s Witnesses to my door, as I said over at Thinking Anglicans. Does he “welcome and agree with” the statement? Well, no, he just “welcomes” it.

  7. “We should never let our fears, or the expectations of others, dictate the frontiers of our dreams.” (attribution unknown.)

  8. I’m bouncing between furious and heartbroken…between fuck him and why.

    The institutional church is as hopeless as the US government…you can’t please all the people all the time, but you certainly can’t please any of the people when you are so damn busy trying to please all of them.

  9. 1. We haven’t signed on to the Anglican Covenant, and neither has HMTQ.

    2. The Archbishop of Canterbury should read Jim Naughton’s letter. Again.

    3. Border crossings? Yelwa? Malawi? The Anglican Communion deserves some answers.

  10. It was a long one, that’s for sure. Up there with his longest. There’s something for everyone as he (ducks and) weaves his magic. But not enough for me.

    I see Sydney has been thrown out. Elder Jensen and his crowd are fond of sending out church plants into neighbouring Dioceses that, “don’t preach tha’ Gospel”. So they’re out under point 3).

  11. Fluffy, I think the reason “why” is plain: Rowan will do anything to preserve the AC in its current form so he can’t be blamed for allowing it to break up. His problem is, that train has already left the station. I expect TEC will issue some sort of gummy conciliatory BS intended to keep us in, but it would be great if somehow, somebody at 815 would say, “Here we stand, we can do no other…..” KJS did sort of say that recently (“the settled mind of the Episcopal Church”), but I don’t think Rowan and the Africans have got the message clearly yet.

  12. Actually this is barely a slap on the wrist. Most disappointed will be the pointy-headed theolog who gets bounced out of their chair at the table to one in the rear at the “ecumenical discussions”.

    On the same note, what kind of discussions can you have with two giant church entities whose entire idea of ecumenical dialog is converting all of the other poor smucks in the room to their we-are-the-only-true-church way of thinking?

  13. It’s been time to throw the tea in the harbor again for at least five years now.

    Frankly, for those of us on this side of the Atlantic, the word “Anglican” has become a very ugly thing, associated as it is now with angry fundamentalist bigots, patronizing lectures from Tom Wright, and such abominations as the American Anglican Council and Bob Duncan’s eyebrows.

    What disappoints me most about all this is how the mainstream in the CoE (the actual mainstream, not the collection of Baptists and Pentecostals that calls itself Anglican Mainstream) has sat by silently while their church has undergone a fundamentalist takeover.

    Apparently they figured that if they just stayed over here in the corner, out of the way, and didn’t bother anyone, the bullies would continue to focus their attention on the Canadians and the Americans.

    Well, now those bullies will need new victims, and we all know who will fit the bill very nicely indeed, don’t we?

  14. ++Rowan Cantaur says, “the
    least Christian thing we can do is to think that this absolves us from
    prayer and care for each other”. Each other? Our own little Anglican group? What about the people in Malawi and other countries (the pending legislation in Uganda, if it’s still pending) who are being persecuted? I think Jesus would give the persecuted top priority.

  15. Looking at this: Inter-Anglican Standing Commission on Unity, Faith and Order (IASCUFO)… has anyone noticed that if you unscramble this insanely long acronym you get “U FIASCO”?

    I hope ++Rowan figures out how he’s going to afford the next Lambeth Conference without our TEC coffers!!

    And, yes, the lack of a word about Malawi… while continuing to sputter about duly-elected bishops in TEC tells me this man has lost his way. Big time!!

  16. “the least Christian thing we can do is to think that this absolves us from prayer and care for each other”.

    I’d be happy with a bit less prayer and a bit more care.

  17. But why on earth do the liberal priest, parishes and bishops in the UK not start to speak out loudly? What on earth is keeping them silent? Maybe they don’t deserve rescuing after all.

    “THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist….”

    I’ve noticed that retired English bishops find the courage of their convictions….once they are enjoying their pensions.

    ****************

    Actually, I’m thinking this is a good thing. TEC can shut down the Anglican Communion ATM and use those funds to further the Gospel–especially to LGBTs in places like Uganda and Nigeria.

    Let ACNA be the one to fund their One Holy Catholic and Homo-Hating Church. I’d love to see the Viagravillains have to pony up and put their money where their hate-filled mouths are. (Bet they won’t…)

    Doxy

  18. “acceptable limits of diversity”

    And Jesus weeps, as He attempts to discern which of his flock to cast out for being just a little too diverse.

  19. Wade: He will have to go to Ambridge, PA. I suspect Pittsburgh doesn’t like his attitude at all. I doubt ACNA has much excess capital to give.

    TEC either should refuse his request and see what happens or, as others said, start proselytizing England.

  20. Real popes issue bulls, not steers.

    Unlike many here, I think the Archbishop of Canterbury is doing the smart thing, even the wise thing, namely kicking the can down the road. And what lies down the road? The North American breakaway groups will continue to fizzle and fragment. The Primates elsewhere who jumped in will tire of leading a parade with few floats or marching bands, and hardly anyone along the parade route.

    The Anglican Communion, such as it is, will blunder along as it always has, and in a few decades this whole kerfuffle will be as perfectly obscure as the one that produced the Reformed Episcopal Church in 1873.

  21. The headline should read,
    “Homosexuality, greatest sin of all, declares head of Anglican Church in England”

    And if you are holding the “scriptures” as the living end of what your faith is based on, well it is probably true to a degree. It was a short while ago I came to realize that as long as there are those who claim to hold the franchise on the title “christian” and what it means to be one, I am not one. I cannot be one. If unity and collegiality are based on credal agreement and mutual understanding of what “membership” in the body entails then it will always be a club of like minded bigots of some sort or other while the Gospel (good news, not book) languishes, moving at a glacial pace if at all. The most painful part is what this organization called “christianity” is doing to our LGBT children. The message sent, and I fear will be affirmed by the TEC and AC of C, is one of “We must maintain the club first, wait, your suffering will be alleviated at the seventh generation” or some such. It would be nice and honest if churches would just admit there is no place for God’s LGBT children in their unified club, Then maybe those who view the Gospel (good news not book) as their guiding force will give themselves an other title and go on to do the Work of Christ without the millstone about their neck. I seriously doubt God cares who we dine with or what we call our restaurant, as long as all are fed.
    Bruno Finocchio

  22. My first reaction is that we should do two things.

    First we should inform his graceless that no we do not accept his ‘invitation.’ Toss us and our funding out or don’t. For once stop trying to play the diplomat and do it.

    Second we should inform the communion that having been tossed by Dr. Williams we are interested in knowing who wants to make alternative communion relationship agreements.

    The only way to deal with a bully, and Dr. Williams is exhibiting the two classic traits, dishonesty and cowardice, is to call him out. OK, it is time.

    If KJS has any sense her response should be two paragraphs and an invitation. The invitation to join in forming a successor communion should be addressed to everyone except one province in England.

    FWIW
    jimB

  23. Isn’t moving TEC funds from supporting the worldwide institution to supporting worldwide mission something like a Gospel imperative? And long overdue? What is the point of spending money on a corpse when there are living people we can help?

  24. What’s not sexy about Quaker women?

    Unprogrammed meetings are based in silence, and they quake. What more could a man ask?

  25. There was a recent cartoon I saw about BP chief exec Tony Hayward headlined: “BP boss visits Louisiana.” It showed a speech balloon coming out of Hayward’s mouth saying: “I’m here to pour oil on troubled waters.” I would say RW’s modus operandi, which is generally also of the oil-on-troubled-waters kind, only with the aim of appeasing utterly the wrong people, is doing about as much for the church as Hayward is doing for the Gulf of Mexico.

  26. RE: “It was a short while ago I came to realize that as long as there are those who claim to hold the franchise on the title “christian” and what it means to be one, I am not one. I cannot be one. If unity and collegiality are based on credal agreement and mutual understanding of what “membership” in the body entails then it will always be a club of like minded bigots of some sort or other while the Gospel (good news, not book) languishes, moving at a glacial pace if at all.”

    Ten thousand amens to this.

  27. {{{MP & other CofE TEC-philes}}}

    I think I agree w/ Rick: what Rowan’s *proposing* is actually pretty mild.

    The important thing is, we say NOTHING to it, until the border-crossers say THEY will accept Rowan’s proposal.

    …and then we say “No” (because it’s “imperative to mission”, ala Paul above, that we DO represent the inclusive face of Anglicanism, to phobes like the Vatican and Moscow!)

    [Since Rowan is Tweedle-Dum to Tom Wright’s Tweedle-Dee: note that, if you say anything about the practices of the Indigenous Anglicans of the (quote-unquote) “Dark Continent”, then you’re *racist* . . . but if you trash Indigenous Anglicans (Episcopalians) of *California* (see re “smudging” at the +Bruce/+Glasspool consecration), then you’re just defending The Church from heresy? WTF!]

  28. We are not “CofE TEC-philes.”
    We are Anglo-Episcopalians.
    We regard ourselves as belonging to something a little larger than the US church.

  29. Unanimity as idol — Homogenous religion without the “mo.”

    If TEC is removed from the Communion, so be it. In this case it would be affirming. However, until that happens, is there anything that prevents TEC, and other like-minded provinces, dioceses and parishes from putting our efforts and financial contributions toward supporting others, within and without the Communion, who are engaged in the Gospel call? Telling others that they are wrong seems futile, but just going ahead and doing what is right seems, well, right. If we are criticized for stepping in harm’s way, who cares?

  30. I’m really only a rather supportive outsider in all this, but:

    CofE TEC-philes sound like they run on the Droid operating system, and will free you from the Apple App Store forever.

    Anglo-Episcopalians: That sounds pretty cool!

  31. Again I say:

    Rowan is a dork.

    He is whining like a little boy and wants to take his ball and go home because he (and his bully friends) can’t have their own way – and refuse to sit at the table in Christ like fashion with ALL God’s children.

    Rowan – Whatever.

  32. Geez, MP, I said “TEC-philes“, not TEC-members (or TEC-sycophants)!

    We are Anglo-Episcopalians.

    Wev. Fine.

    And wot Dahveed said.

    [You’re just pissy I hugged you, arencha? ;-p]

  33. “We are Anglo-Episcopalians.
    We regard ourselves as belonging to something a little larger than the US church.”

    I think that’s true of most of us in this neck of the woods.

  34. We regard ourselves as belonging to something a little larger than the US church.. Yes, and The Episcopal Church is larger than the US church. Columbia, Honduras, Taiwan, Europe, Haiti. And England, Scotland…?

  35. He’s actually worse than a pope. The RC is more forward-thinking than Rowan’s little nonsense of a communion. At least in the RCC, a German, a Pole, a Frenchman can become Bishop of Rome. I’ll think there’s at least a hint of fair in this Anglican Church of Rowan’s when an American can become Archbishop of Canterbury.

  36. No one specifically mentioned it, but Rowan went off again on our “appointing” Mary Glasspool as a suffragan bishop in LA. The fool is either incredibly lazy or just mendacious. How many times do we have to tell the Tufti that TEC elects its bishops and does not appoint them. Like talking to a rock…..

  37. Someone at Jake’s did mention a very interesting reason for Rowan’s knocking TEC while placating the Africans: as ABC, Rowan is a member of the British government and Whitehall regards it as a “no brainer” to keep all those Africans signed up as “Anglicans.” Can’t let them go off to some other “church” can we? I know nothing about the workings of the UK government vs the Church of England, but perhaps he makes a point that Rowan has political considerations working here I certainly don’t understand. Doesn’t make him right, but…..

  38. That’s garbage, Strangelove. Our government always licks Yank arse before it licks anybody else’s. Also, our government doesn’t give a toss about what the churches get up to anymore, other than they are well embarrassed by Williams’ homophobia. He is going completely against the moral current in our country at this present time.

  39. Sorry, late to the fray (was out of town all last week).

    As for ++Williams ? Meh. I stopped caring what His Fuzziness thought of us a long while ago. The man is a coward with no moral compass that I can detect.