MUSLIMS – ARE THEY DOING IT FOR THEMSELVES?

From THE GUARDIAN:

British values are under threat because the government's attempt to combat terrorism has left whole communities "stigmatised", the National Association of Muslim Police has told MPs. The Prevent strategy, designed to stop radicalisation, focuses too much on Islamic extremism rather than the threat posed by the far right, claims the association, which represents more than 2,000 police officers.

"Never before has a community been mapped in a manner and nor will it be," the association said in evidence to a Commons select committee on the strategy, known as Preventing Violent Extremism. "It is frustrating to see this in a country that is a real pillar and example of freedom of expression and choice. Our British system is a model for the world to follow, yet we have embarked on a journey that has put this very core of British values under real threat. The hatred towards Muslims has grown to a level that defies all logic and is an affront to British values. The climate is such that Muslims are subject to daily abuse in a manner that would be ridiculed by Britain, were this to occur anywhere else."

There was a sense of frustration among Muslims and "some serious damage" may already have been done, it said.

COMMENT: It must be really frustrating if you are a law abiding, Islamic peacenik having to face being searched every time you go through customs and having people eye you very suspiciously every time you walk into somewhere carrying a bag or briefcase. It's bad enough being a bog standard, "live and let live" Christian and having to put up with people assuming that you believe that the world was created in six days and that you want to castrate gay people.

However, there is a difference between Christianity and Islam that leaves Muslims open to the charge that they want to have their cake and eat it too. The thing is Muslims do go on about being organically one people in a way Christians do not anymore, if they ever did. Muslims make a big thing about how, if one of them is attacked, they are all attacked. They also tend to place this unity higher than their duty to their fellow citizens whatever their nationality. Therefore, although I sympathise with their predicament, I also think they should revamp their own public profile a bit. You see, it is not unreasonable for people to come to the conclusion that if one Muslim is attacked means all Muslims are attacked, then one Muslim attacks means all Muslims are involved in the attacking.

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MUSLIMS – ARE THEY DOING IT FOR THEMSELVES? — 12 Comments

  1. And you know, God’s honest truth, as I was formulating a response, I had this twinge of fear that if the wrong folks read this Jonathan’s life could be in danger…

  2. I doubt it. It’s a perfectly reasonable point to make and was done so from a position of sympathy. I mean, I do know what it’s like to be tarred with the fundamentalist brush. We all do nowadays.

  3. Perfectly reasonable or not – the islamist extremists call for people’s heads for the tiniest of perceived insults it seems…

  4. You see, it is not unreasonable for people to come to the conclusion that if one Muslim is attacked means all Muslims are attacked, then one Muslim attacks means all Muslims are involved in the attacking.

    This is true, but I’m not sure the average punter’s thoughts on the subject are even this well-informed. Most people just seem to assume post 9/11 that Muslims are aggro types who want to blow other people up, full stop.

  5. The thing is Muslims do go on about being organically one people in a way Christians do not anymore, if they ever did. Muslims make a big thing about how, if one of them is attacked, they are all attacked.

    “Muslims do go on”?
    “Muslims make”?

    Where are the quantitative modifiers here, MP?

    Even the Big Fun Guy-in-the-Sky, YHWH, specified a (progressively smaller) number of righteous “Sodomites” for which he would NOT destroy the city.

    You don’t allow for such numbers of righteous among Muslims?

    As Jon Stewart would say (usually among others, like himself, on the Left): {sing-song} You’re Not HELPing!

  6. Where are the quantitative modifiers here, MP?

    I have never heard or read a Muslim disagreeing with the statement. To do so would be heresy as it is a central tenet of their faith.

  7. So, of someone like Irshad Manji, you just say “Oh, she’s a heretic . . . and therefore NOT a Muslim”? Very convenient and circular, MP. [Well, at least Al Qaeda agrees w/ you!]

  8. She’s Canadian. And I’ve never heard her speak or read anything she has written. So, even though I was talking about England, I now amend my statement to:

    “I have never heard or read a Muslim disagreeing with the statement except Irshad Manji and by ordinary, run of the mill, mainstream, Islamic standards she is a heretic if she doesn’t believe in the collective nature of the Ummah.

    Anyway, you don’t have Muslims in America – just darker skinned capitalists.